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i'm ari melber in for alex wagner. u.s. severed ties with iran and every president thoepd make a deal. at 3:00 in the morning on sunday the administration achieved a breakthrough. after a year of secret bilateral negotiations the u.s. reached an interim deal on iran's nuclear program. it will temporarily pause the program while negotiators pursue a long-term agreement. the deal, which will continue for six months they agree to stop enriching above 5% and not enthe stockpile. they will not install additional centrifuge. these will be enforced by daily inspections by iaea. beyond that sanctions that kr crippled the iran will be eased
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to $6to $7 billion benefit. when they returned last night they were greeted by hundreds of cheering supporters. american officials have not received such an amiable reception. this morning, "wall street journal" knocked the deal as a triumph for iran. lawmakers from both parties hit a skeptical note as well. >> i think this deal, interim deal with iran is, in fact, dangerous. it is a deal which brings iran closer to becoming a nuclear power. we want that power in that country to dismantle ir reversibly dismantle its nuclear stockpiles and not be allowed to continue enrichment. >> it's disappointing to me that iran is still going to be allowed to enrich while they are talking. >> we have just rewarded very bad and dangerous behavior. >> we are very concerned as to whether iran will live up to even these commitments. >> say the reaction in iran right now they are spiking the football in the end zone.
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>> members of congress have many ensent i was to sound skeptical. this falls on execution on the ground not language. the deal is a breakthrough for both worlds, tough sanctions to encourage the bargaining we've had and weapons inspection toss test compliance. next six months of inspections and negotiations will provide the test that matters. or as john kerry told reporters last night, now the really hard part begins. joining me politics editor business insider josh barrow, senior reporter at "politico," impact strategies angela ri and "washington post" political reporter aaron blake. before we get to you guys, joining me live in london is nbc foreign news correspondent ayman mohyeldin. walk us through how this works, how optimistic people in the
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united states should be. >> they should certainly approach it with a little bit of scepticism, perhaps cautious optimism. the significant of this deal is two-fold. one, when it concerns the iranian news program there are issues agreed to as you mentioned in that introduction. that is going to have some affect on the ground if, in fact, there is complete compliance from both sides on the ground there is a larger issue at stake, a confidence measure between iran and united states that we've seen as unprecedented level since president rouhani has come into office despite criticism from israel and others, the fact u.s. had been holding secret negotiations, high-level meetings. more importantly the conversation between president obama and president rouhani, these are key caters there can be a thawing of relations. why that matters, not just over
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the nuclear issue but regional issues that are great concern to the united states and it's national security including conflict in ir ia, including saudi arabia and perhaps above all including israel's security. >> that seems to be the balance here. no one expects iran to become friendly to the u.s. or interest but 30 years after the tortured relationship it is a significant breakthrough. i want to point to something richard haass wrote. the accord is better understood as a ceiling than a freeze. it establishes a level of npgs that is far more intrusive than what existed of the net result will be to slow iran's progress towards nuclear weapons capability, increasing the time and warning the world would have between any iranian decision to produce nuclear weapons and when it would actually achieve that goal. ayman, i take that time line to you because we're looking at a congress that seems to think it
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should set the next deadline. what is the international view of the next six months? >> the way i've heard it described, this is not an event, an agreement, this is a process. what you have unfolding is the progress. a timetable over the course of the six months, if there is compliance by both sides an opportunity for a comprehensive agreement. by no means is the united states or even iran for that matter trying to say this is the end. in fact, the iranian foreign minister upon returning to tehran says this is the beginning of a new era. the process will last. that's a point of concern for u.s. officials and members of congress. they want to make sure the iranian government doesn't use a window process for the program. without a doubt this is about confidence building between the two p.o.w.s in the u.s. and iran. without a doubt it is going to be key to test the good will of
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both the sides in this agreement between releasing the frozen funds from the international community site and compliance with these agreements on the ground for iran. >> all right. nbc's ayman mohyeldin. joining us now democratic senator from virginia tim kaine chairman of subcommittee on near eastern and southeastern asian affairs. thank you for being here. >> you bet, ari. glad to be with you. >> let me start with reaction to what you and other senate democrats said. you put out a statement fairly measured talking about verification, talking about the path ahead. "politico" among other newspapers says it looks like democrats are breaking with that immediately. that is accurate? how are you looking at this today? >> not at all. the way i look at the announced deal, very much like the richard haass statement. he made it sound so much simpler than i made it. the way i look at the deal, the
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components, we stretched out the time and made it harder for iran to have nuclear weapons plutonium and increased warning system. we had good intelligence but couple that with intrusive inspections. if they decide to go towards weapons grade plutonium we'll know sooner. stretching out the time and getting a better early warning system is a good first step. we need to be skeptical, tough in this period and test the complete sincerity of iran's intendings but i think this is a good first step from everyone i've heard. we need to work with all of p5 plus 1 partners and all countries in the world to make sure of this clear goal that iran will not have nuclear weapons. >> according to estimates we have, we know from 2009 we've seen an increase in the quantity
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of actual low enriched uranium iran does have. one of the procedures here you get the iaei weapons inspectors in the mix. how important is that? does this aspect get credit. your colleagues on the senate, foreign relations and elsewhere are saying, hey, we don't truss these guys. >> we shouldn't trust them. the inspections regime is the key piece to this deal. again, remember when prime minister netanyahu was before the united nations, he was talking about the amount of enriched uranium iran had at the 20% level. the 20% enrichment will be disabled and basically rolled back. enrichment will be capped at 5%. that means it will take them longer to get to weapons grade. the real key is the dramatic increase in the inspections by these objective and independent international inspectors. we already, ari, remember, have good intelligence. our intelligence and other allied nations about what's going on in iran.
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what we get now is our own continuing intelligence plus this intrusive inspections regime. so we will have an earlier warning if iran decides to violate their agreements and move forward. what i expect to see congress talking about is clearly are there additional sanctions we should capitol plate if iran at the end of this interim period has not structured an agreement for total disarmament or iran violates the terms of the agreement and acts in bad faith to promote weapons grade nuclear program. so sanctions that would take into account one of those two eventualities. i think it's worth having that discussion. we need to test with all of our might this diplomatic discussion because everyone agrees, united states, israel, everyone agrees a diplomatic resolution to this question is far superior than a military resolution or any other resolution. >> right, senator. sanctions seemed to help bring
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us to the hope of that prospect. bring in josh barrow here. >> i think the thing that people haven't necessarily seen so much from the u.s. side of this is how well sanctions have worked in terms of the interruption they have caused in the iranian economy. it's a disaster for the people of iran. you've had a doubling in poverty over the last eight years. inflation is officially running around 40% and we think it's closer to 80%. iranians and leaders are motivated to find a way out of this situation. >> if you look, we have on the screen iranian currency over the last year to josh's point has been tumbling versus the dollar. it's a tough situation there on the ground. why do you think then, to your previous comments, senator, you need a trigger for more sanctions if we're seeing breakthrough? >> well, because you need to show that the international community is not relaxing on the ultimate goal of a nonnuclear iran. the concern skeptics raise and it's a fair concern we have to
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watch is striking any kind of a partial deal, a relaxation, where iran might suspect, hey, maybe the sanctions will go away. we don't want to dismantle architect you're of sanctions, we want to keep in place because they have worked. lets be honest, sanctions have been working but iran advancing their nuclear program. it has not been sufficient. threat of military action has not been sufficient. being at the table and having a diplomatic dialogue is the thing that has now broken through and enabled us to put a first step on the table where we can measure sincerity of iranian's intentions. >> senator, that's clearly a priority. on the other hand you have a block of folks in congress, including republicans who don't seem from the early reaction we're seeing to be comfortable with any sort of civilian nuclear programming in iran. to some degree are you glossing over that problem you have a caucus or wing that wants to be
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sanctions essentially no matter what, even if you do get something longer term out of the six months. >> you've put your finger on a tough and challenging issue over the next six months. the issue is iran will not get nuclear weapons period. it jeopardizes the region, the world, other in the region who don't have nuclear weapons will feel like they need to get them. one of the challenges you point out is iran says we will not get nuclear weapons but we have the right to energy everyone else has. that's thorny. have they forfeited that right because of violation of past u.n. protocols, resolutions. these are the thorny issues that radar an additional step and negotiation. you've got to build trust on the first step. each side needs to test each other's sincerity in good faith as we have that ultimate negotiation.
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>> right. that's an important contrast. virginia senator tim kaine. it's a busy week in foreign relations committee. thanks for spending time with us. >> absolutely. >> obama administration marks international breakthrough gop lawmakers say nuclear deal is actually an attempt to quote detract attention from barack obama. we'll tackle that up next on "now." as a business owner, i'm constantly putting out fires. so i deserve a small business credit card with amazing rewards. with the spark cash card from capital one, i get 2% cash back on every purchase, every day. i break my back around here. finally someone's recognizing me with unlimited rewards! meetings start at 11, cindy. [ male announcer ] get the spark business card from capital one. choose 2% cash back or double miles on every purchase, every day. what's in your wallet? i need your timesheets, larry!
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you sort of knew they would go there. as u.s. moves toward signing agreement with iran john cornyn, number two in the senate accused president obama of wag the dog conspiracy. he tweeted amazing what white house will do to distract attention from obama care.
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that drew mocking responses like this one from middle eastern reporter jeffrey goldberg over in the house kevin mccarthy raised a similar charge with a hypothetical. >> i know they need some type of other news but that would be the biggest mistake any administration could do try to make a decision on a political basis when you're dealing with american and lives around the world. i would hope that would never be the case. >> just to be clear republicans offered no evidence that this was an obama care conspiracy. the reaction is odd, gop has plenty to sink its teeth into on the health care front. the administration extended initial enrollment by a week to december 23rd, pushed back next year's enrollment deadline by a month after november midterms a move that provided further ammo for critics that left some democrats looking a little despondent. >> the process is terrible. we're disappointed.
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those that support the affordable care act. i don't think obama care failed. access to obama care is a failure at this point in time and needs to be fixed. >> but some fixes are still a ways off. up to 40% of the website is incomplete according to administration testimony last week and pledge that the website will work for a vast majority of users is testing patience on the hill for some house democrats the clock is ticking on how long they are willing to play defense. some starting to rise medicaid a public sector bright spot for expanding coverage. other hill insiders say house democrats may put emphasis on oversight joining what has been a republican crusade using hearings for exposing waste, incompetence and abuse to hhs. out to the panel, maggie, we were quoting some "politico" reporting on the front, the idea that hearings are not just going to be a political charade for republicans to go at obama care, democrats are going to get in
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that mix. >> i think democrats are going to get into that mix because their needs aren't the same as the president as you heard hoyer say. one, broader aware of obama care versus conspiracy about the iran deal. that was not something misrepublicans, at least on twitter, joined us because it's out there. the way mccarthy couched it i would hope, blah blah blah. as you say it's been in the works for a long time. not a surprise, not a sudden deal number one. number two, you see democrats like hoyer trying to make a distinction with the rollout mess and the plan and what the bill provides. you're going to see democrats take it seriously and not pulling partisan politics and supporting the president because they are very concerned about this climate now. this is tough for the house and house democrats became much tougher. they gave republicans a lift trt
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shutdown. i don't think it's a huge surprise. again, we're in the same position we were before. six months from now enrollment numbers on track, things looking better, this will seem less breathless to everybody. >> in the long-term, a program like medicaid and assess it for its first couple of months or sweep as a society program. on the other hand, not to put steny hoyer on the couch, i don't want to do that, but he looked sad. >> this is a more immediate problem for steny hoyer because of 2012 election. these members need to worry about not only president obama's legacy but winning election in 2014. you're seeing big senators al franken talking about changes to obama care. this becomes more of a problem when it stops being about implementation and dismantling parts of the law. so far democrats have only been
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going towards implementation part of this. i do think you need to keep watching the types of democrats who dip their toe in the water when it comes to making any changes whatsoever because it's starting to be a problem. >> angela, i'm not sure, definitely a distinction there between the sabotage caucus that wants trojan horse amendments and doing things to fix or improve it. the new republic talking about this and the context of liberalism. writes a two-page bill could have extended medicare and coverage by relying on the public market and straining to avoid the taint of big government, it's russian novel of social policy now totalling 20,202 cases. he goes on to talk about this as a test case for the kind of big policy they want. do wets a point where house democrats say no. what we need to do to build on this is do more with medicare, government side of reforms that
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have been clean. >> i think it can go either way. you're in a situation where, yeah, the rollout wasn't as smooth as folks had hoped. it's been frustrating not just for democrats but republicans. they have made that very clear. i have to go back to the fact they voted to repeal obama care 48 times. one of those votes could have been used to actually fix what they thought the problems might be. nobody on either side of the aisle really projected that this would happen. so now we're all supposed to get on board and support what would have been a good policy if the right policies were in place. one of the things since we're talking conspiracy theories. osama bin laden when he was killed, there were suggestion he did in time for the election, he wanted to distract what was happening with jobs numbers. at some point you have to say some of this stuff is he doesn't just have one job. he has to do a whole lot in his
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role as commander in chief. >> going back to frank ford piece, remains to be seen, website will get fixed, some places it's working, washington state, et cetera. it's complicated and requires 20,000 words of law and interaction between government and private sector, if you do it right the approach can work. the lesson we need to draw is not the only way to do health care is single payer. the question that will determine whether it works over time is how the insurance mashts work, whether we get the 14 million signups we're supposed to get between now and march. actually i think it's possible they will extend the enrollment period and people will sign up through april. then over the next couple of years how do insurance premiums go, does insurance continue to be affordable, is this system working. there was a mistaken expectation from republicans and democrats that obama care would either work really well or blow up. there's a third possibility where we stumble through for a few years. the system is working in some
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sense but fewer people are covered than we expect it to be. it's more expensive than we expect it to be. if that's the case in 2017, 2018 we'll have a conversation about is this working and which way move forward to mix the problems. it's not the sort of things we'll know in six months which of those outcomes we got. >> i think that's exactly right. we're not talking about something brief. there's a metta argument whether single payer is the way to go. that's the argument we got. when we're looking at the long stretch of this, i think it is just as likely you're going to see it turn out better than expected. i do think both sides are to blame by the way in terms of the expectation. i don't think anybody handled this particular well for those invested in the law's success, they did not do a great job to explain this might be x, y, z in the interim. they have now become subsumed by website. >> isn't it weird all the amendments come from a right wing critique of the law.
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if you're in a state where your governor is not participating in exchanges we're going to add an amendment you get a bigger tax benefit. >> you have perfecting amendments like the landrieu bill she's trying to address the problem of people's plans getting canceled, imposing a law that would not only allow but obligation insurers to reissue plans. that's not affecting from the right but left. that's a real government takeover of health care where you have the government telling insurance companies exactly which type of policies they have to issue. >> mary landrieu doesn't speak for the left right more about politics than what liberal health care policies want. >> liberal health care advocates are going why didn't we go for the public option. >> they didn't have the votes for it. we've seen some complaints from democrats, not the government canceling your plan, it's your insurance company canceling it. go talk to greedy insurance company. democrats got in bed with insurance companies. they decided they would do with an approach that relied heavily on the private market and
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related on insurers as a partner to get tens of millions covered. it's silly to go back and say it's not our fault but the insurance company's part. >> it does go to the part of the argument in the piece in the new republic, how much relates to larger theory of government. welcome back to that, i'm sure. u.s. pact with afghanistan gained approval from the council over the weekend. that does not mean the deal is moving ahead without hurdles. why president karzai might stand in the way of the agreement. that's ahead on "now." ♪ [ male announcer ] this december, experience the gift of exacting precision and some of the best offers of the year [ ding! ] at the lexus december to remember sales event. this is the pursuit of perfection. ♪
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past 2014 when the majority of coalition forces are supposed to part. following the vote afghan president karzai rejected the 24-page agreement saying he wouldn't sign it until the country was secure and after elections in april. abdullah criticized karzai's retice reticent. >> he's a bit unpredictable. this issue and significant would require more responsibility towards the nation, the future of the country. >> meanwhile one of karzai's patrons was more uncharitable. our president is like my child but he doesn't listen to what i say. relations have soured during the obama years. addressing the injuring, a, my trust with america is not good. i don't trust them and they don't trust me. karzai insists he won't sign the agreement until the u.s. does more to promote peace and
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stability, ends raids on homes and transparent elections. news of the country is considering public stoning of adulterers. susan rice in afghanistan on a four-day visit and will meet with president karzai tonight to try to get relations back on track. coming up here in two hours president obama will call on congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform. what will bring republicans to the table? we will discuss why there may be a change of heart on the right and how grassroots pressure could rewrite the playbook. that's next on "now."
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president obama speaking this afternoon in san francisco where he will once again call on congress to pass comprehensive immigration reform.
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only six months a bipartisan reform bill stalled in the house. some reformers are finding pressure points to push the senate bill or shame the house into voting on something. activists ranging from liberal organizers, conservatives, evangelical leaders fasting for two weeks trying to force immigration back on the agenda. those efforts paid off to some degree friday when joe biden showed up in solidarity with hunger strikers. >> we're going to win this. my father would say come hell or high water. >> others taking a high-tech approach. a dreamer hackathon, the 25-hour event invited immigrants with tech engineers for tools to advance immigration reform. sent a message many in silicon valley welcome workers as colleagues and citizens. all the activism might impact last step for immigration reform getting a floor vote in the gop
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house. when confronted by undocumented children at a diner recently speaker boehner only offered he was trying to pass reform. on thursday he sounded even more open to holding some kind of vote on reform. >> is immigration reform dead? absolutely not. >> house gop whip kevin mccarthy sounded a bit more optimistic yesterday. >> immigration reform is going to happen but going to happen in a step by step method." i will tell you the president came out and supported it. >> that would mack a congress that rarely works together. taking it to the panel, angel ash, imgraying is going to happen, just depends on the meaning of reform and happen. >> i hope that's not where we are. the president did say he supports a piecemeal approach as long as it gets done. speaker boehner immediately took to the microphone and said he's glad the president finally came
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around. the problem is there's a breakdown on what happens after piecemeal approach is done. the president is likely to believe piecemeal approach go to congress with only senate matter passed. that is comprehensive and was in june. speaker boehner has no intention on ever going to conference on the senate version of the bill. that puts us as quite an impasse. i don't see where we go especially if their primary idea of immigration reform is border security and the border is more secure than it's been in year. >> what does it mean and why does it matter? >> house passes something, senate passes something. they agree they are similar enough to go into negotiations with each other. i think a big stum bling block this whole debate in congress, not whether it's going to high pressure or what immigration reform is, is this idea of piecemeal immigration reform. i think republicans have a different view of what that word
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piecemeal means from democrats. democrats mean a bunch of different bills, get it done piece by piece. republicans have only been willing to go with the pieces they like, not a path to citizenship, which don't necessarily include dream act legislation. when house republicans pass these kind of piecemeal bills, democrats are going to find they don't include key aspects of comprehensive immigration reform. they are going to say no. they are not going to vote on it. boehner and mccarthy can say immigration is not dead. the fact is for all intents and purposes people understand this issue on different levels and can't come together. >> you know, maggie, one thing weird there is a lot of support not only in the country but in the republican party for this. we were looking toddada 2030 al americans 63%, republicans 53% and self-identified tea party members at 45%.
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this is not the deficit, one of the things that cleaves the party in its grassroots. >> that's what you hear from people who support immigration or comprehensive, doesn't cleave it. if you park the numbers you come up with that. 45% is not 50% in terms of the tea party. 53 is not 63%. you are talking about a narrow majority or in some cases a narrow minority. you do have a lot of republicans, their main fear is not just that this will be definitional in the primary, debatable wherever it is, they will attract a primary challenger. they go ahead with this which is kind of why you hear spring as a negotiating point on this. it's not a surprise boehner came out and said absolutely this is not dead. it's not a great message point for republican leadership right now given their brand is so damaged. given they are identified as the party of no to come out and say it's dead. we're done. >> maggie, you're saying spring in part because that's after the deadlines for republican primaries. >> correct. that's essentially where people are talking about it.
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jeb bush was here giving a talk in support of a book he has on this topic. he's very emphatic he's had conversations with john boehner and john boehner say something will pass and they expect it will be spring. >> i'm with maggie. you can cite poll numbers it's advantageous or not advantageous but republican members of the house see more political danger being in favor of this than against it in their individual districts. there is a lot of problems in republican party where you have a position that is unpopular for party nationally but causing problems with hispanic and other asian groups. individual and republican members don't have to fear they will be defeated for re-election because they oppose immigration reform. a good reason to act like it's interested in something. >> some goes to dress for the job you want. vote for the coalition you want. i get this they have districts
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more worried about republican primaries. that's a fact. at a certain point, what is leadership? it has to be more than catering to base fears of caucus if you want to be ready for 2016 or god for bif bid a solution to what is an intractable republican problem. >> we put this in the context of self-preservation. for some members that's the case. for some members every vote they take are thinking about the next election to some extent. i think a lot of members apart from that also think they are voting in the interest of their district. that's because the people they hear from, the people calling their offices are the people against comprehensive immigration reform. these are the people who don't want some form of amnesty for illegal immigrants. the middle on this issue is so much softer than extremes are. because republicans have to win primaries and hearing from
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people who put efforts toward that, these are the people that should. >> rollo theory, hard on the edges but soft caramel in the middle. >> i don't know the mill is too soft. another problem speaking of parsing words, citizenship versus legalization" that has been an ongoing battle in the house entirely too problematic. you mention leadership you would think they would give some credence to gop autopsy report that come out month from now. they know they cannot continue to win elections beyond jerrymandered districts if they don't galvanize a larger group of people of color. >> includes if we do not embrace comprehensive immigration reform our party's appeal will shrink to core constituency. comprehensive immigration reform is consistent with republican economic policies that promote job growth and opportunity for all. josh is shaking his head.
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sadly, for lornely almost. >> it's correct but it's incomplete. gop autopsy report reflects views of elite within the republican party in washington that likes where the party stands on public policy and never liked where it stood on other issues including immigration, to some extent social issues. they want diagnosis to say we'll move to modernize and leave core economic platform intact. i think they are right the party needs to embrace some sort of reform on immigration but i don't think that's going to be a silver bullet with hispanic voters to allow the party to recover from a position that's losing 2-1. >> reformers in the party, chris christie with a voice in the future, you don't need a silver bullet. he did well with a majority of hispanics. real quickly. >> yet he wouldn't take a position on immigration reform which tells you all you need to know about how hot it is. >> a programming note, the
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the most successful pop group of all time. far less printed about the man who charted their rise to gobble stardom brian epstein, the new graphic novel the fifth beatle tells the story of a legendary manager who wielded the success in the music industry and all while suffering from crippling anxiety. he was gay at a time homosexuality was illegal and jewish when anti-semitism was widespread. he did not live to see the
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beatles story end. he died of a drug overdose at 32. still they knew his pivotal road. as paul mccartney told bbc, if anyone was the fifth beatle, it was brian. joining me now, vivek tiwary, author of the fifth beatle. tell us how brian created them as a band and a brand. >> he discovered when they were relatively unknown liverpool group playing small clubs. he saw in the beatles a group that had a great message of love, as cheesy as that is to say, to spread in the world. he also saw in the group a band if presented properly could appeal to everyone, girls, boys, young people, cross-generational. >> you have a book with beautiful imagery. a lot of people love graphic novels, some don't know why
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someone would choose to tell the story this way. brian as someone who narrated knew they had to have a certain look. >> he came up with the suits, haircuts, imaged the band, found a way to present them so the world could embrace them. he knew their message would be universal if it was presented in such a way everybody could hear it. that's what he did for the band. >> in terms of the graphic medium, the way to tell not only the facts but poetry behind it. apart from being a great beatles story it's a very inspiring human story about this guy with all the obstacles he faced realized a spectacular agreement. he was really in many ways the ultimate outsider being gay, jewish, in liverpool as you pointed out. he overcame personal obstacles. >> people think of exploration, free love, cultural shifts but
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it was difficult for them. >> he died in 1967 during the summer of love. truth is that was the summer of love if you had the right kind of love. to i don't a beatles reference, he had to hide his love away. it was inspiring but tragic. he exposed to the world a great message of love as i said earlier yet he dies at the age of 32 never having had a proper boyfriend. >> his death's impact on the band? >> a lot of what ifs, what might have happened if he lived no question right after brian died is when the beatles faced their first taste of failure and criticism. the magical mystery tour in large part a disaster. they started publicly bickering. brian viewed them as a family. they were the children as a gay man he could never dream of having. much like any father you want to keep your family together. it's unknown whether brian could have actually kept the band together i'm fairly certain he wouldn't have allowed them to explode so publicly, so much
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acrimo acrimony. the dissolution wasn't pleasant to observe and i don't think he would have allowed that to happen. >> your background, how much of that drew you in, the beatles consummate with larger them act music and storytelling. >> i think the beatles were. one of the thing he brought was theatricali theatricality, he was big on bull fighting, he brought that sense of theatricality, he came up with early suits and haircuts. i think his love of bullify is not such a stress to see the sergeant pepper costumes in there. that's something he really brought to the group. >> i like everyone listened to the beatles even though they were an older band. my parents had vinyl album covers. >> that's how i got into them through those album covers. >> exactly. the book is the fifth beatle,
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the white house persuade skeptics who say iran cannot be trusted. we'll have national security adviser. >> what was concluded in geneva last night is not an historic agreement, it's a historic mistake. >> a salute to president john f. kennedy. 50 years ago today the funeral, the nation said good-bye. we'll share the story behind one of the most enduring images from that dark day. >> good day i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the nuclear deal with iran reached over the weekend is the culmination of months of negotiations. those negotiations lasted longer than many people knew. according to a report by "associated press" which first broke this story, obama